Carol Mintz notes from 1880 Tallapoosa Co. census record. Wm. C. died in 1875, he isn't on that census. 1880 census shows Emily living alone with 6 children:

Gresham, E.E. - white female 43 years old - born AL; children:

Genealogy Correspondence on Jennie E. Scroggins

Steve and Lynn,

We went back and checked Mother's early notes about Jennie. We show her as Jennie E. Grisham/Gresham mainly based on a Tallapoosa Co. deed record, Book 1, Pg. 436. Land deeded to James C. Grisham (my grandfather) on March 1, 1892. Signed A.F. Grisham (brother), Lilly B. Grisham (A.F.'s wife), Jennie E. Grisham, and Mary C. Grisham (sister). The land is Sec. 30, Sec. 29 and Sec. 20, parts, all in Township 22, Range 23. (By the way, I tried to match this deed description with the descriptions in the original land grants to Wm. C. and Littleberry Gresham, but it doesn't seem to fit.)

On Mother's original notes (taken in the 1940s - 1950s) "Elizabeth" is penciled in next to the E, probably intended to question whether she might have been named after her grandmother, who we believe is Elizabeth Rhodes. Our later notes incorporated the Elizabeth. I am so glad to receive your information that Jennie's real name is Martha Eugenia. Did you know that Emily's mother was named Martha? In the mid to late 1950s, at a family reunion in Alexander City, AL, my Mother talked to Jennie. She told Mother that Emily Farley's mother was Martha Walls. We didn't have any information about where Jennie died and was buried.

Here's what we know about Emily's parents: James Farley m. Martha Walls and they lived in Chambers Co., AL. We found three federal land grants dated 1837 and 1841 that are probably his. (According to information taken from an Alabama Wills book) James left a Will that was executed in 1840. He mentions that his wife's name is Martha, and he names seven children:

John, Jr., Samuel C., James M. Wm. E., Emily E., Lemuel and Sarah A. We found a marriage record showing that Martha remarried in 1841, to William Henry Kimble (in Chambers Co., AL). Our records show they had five more children: Felicia (m. John Henry Stanfield), Alonzo, Frank, Thomas W.,and Pete. Emily E. was only 2 when her mother married Mr. Kimble, so he was the only father she knew. Wonder of wonders!! My Mother has a yellowed and brittle letter dated 1871 that Wm. Kimble wrote to Emily complaining that he hadn't heard from her in a while. He also mentions some of the other children. If you want, I will make a transcript of the letter and/or send you a scanned copy.

The Greshams really did like to recycle their given names -- my father, Roy's, middle name was Kimble! And his brother was named Cooper. In going back over our notes, we also can't confirm that Emily E.'s middle name is Elizabeth. Could be that its Eugenia. Hope we can find a record somewhere that will tell us.

Thanks for the information about the Scroggins, Steve. With your data we can fill in a lot of blanks about Jennie's line.

Carol

At 09:14 AM 5/10/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Lynn

>The dates and other data line up well enough to be convincing. Wow! We do have some name discrepancies. Most of my info comes from my father's half-sister's husband (my uncle), Lester Schrader. His email is on my website.

I have Jennie listed as Martha Eugenia Grisham (with an I) born about 1872 and died 1961----you have Jennie Elizabeth Gresham, born 1868 died 1961. Having Emily (Elizabeth) Farley as a mother and William as a father AND being from the same county AND marrying a Henry Scroggins seems TOO MUCH to be a coincidence. If you or Carol have her burial as Memorial Gardens in Jackson Gap, AL, then that would seal the deal that these are the same Jennie.

>I have her husband as H. Lon Scroggins, but I have correspondents (on the Tallapoosa forum) who list his name as Henry L. and "Len". Since my grandfather and my father share the name of "Lon", I imagine Alonzo is just a transcription error or someone's assumption that Lon was an abbreviated nickname. Jennie was the name she went by...I'm speculating here...perhaps she was listed on a census list as Jennie E. and someone assumed that E was for Elizabeth? Elizabeth was her mother's middle name. ???

>Thanks for the info. I'm not sure how we can reconcile the name differences. Perhaps the others I've copied on this mail can offer some insight.

>Do you have info on the Farley family or the ancestors of William C. Gresham/Grisham?

Lynn, Steve,

I am sending some information regarding Jennie (Eugenia) Grisham,(Gresham) from a letter to Bonnie from her aunt in Sept 7, 1994. Bonnie had asked the same question of Grisham or Gresham and since Aunt Alma did not answer directly, she wrote Grisham. Following is from that letter:

I'm enclosing a separate sheet about Mamma's (Jennie) Mother and Father. (William and Emily Grisham) I went to the Cemetery in Dadeville, Ala, really it is a few miles out from Dadeville. The name of it is "Old Union Cemetery, There are very few people;we buried there, and then, my son, Paul Jr. and I went to the Court House in Dadeville to check the records to see that my memory was right.

(signed ) Aunt Alma (Alma Scroggins Hyde, Daughter of Jennie and H.L Scroggins)

separate page to Bonnie:

Your Grandmother's Mamma Maiden Name was Farley. She was Emily Eugenia Farley, she married William C. Grisham. She was born in 1839-died in 1890. William C. Grisham was born on Sept ?. It was not plain enough on the tombstone to tell the year. look like 1819. They did not have records at the courthouse that far back. Mamma was named Martha Eugenia. She didn't like the name Martha, and insisted on being called Jennie. She was known as Jennie all her adult life. Mamma died in 1961. She was 89. She and Papa were buried in Jackson's Gap. The name of the Cemetery is "Memorial Gardens". I get to visit their graves quite often as my sister and other relatives are buried there.

(end of page)

From Bonnie's cousin, Paul V. Scroggins Jr's Heritage Chart that he sent us, he has H. Lon Scroggins, 1869-1918 married Matha Eugenia (Jennie) Grisham 1872-1961.Per chart, her father was William Cooper Grisham, 1811-1875, married Emily Eugenia Farley, 1839-1880 (note: He has Emily Farley dying in 1880 and Aunt Alma has her listed as 1890)(Looks like a trip to Old Union Cemetery at Dadeville, Ala is in order to read her tombstone.)

I hope this will help answer some of the questions surrounding this area of Jennies Life.

Sincerely,

Lester Schrader

Dear Steve,

I know this is late and may not be of much help, but the only info we have on Moda Scroggins is this:

Emily, Mary, Alma, Geraldine, Vance, Heflin, Moda, Jack, and Paul were all children of Henry Alonzo Scroggins and Jennie Elizabeth Gresham ( we have it spelled Gresham). Jennie was born feb 26 1872 died Jan 15, 1961 in Chambers Co, Al. She is the child of William C Gresham and Emily Elizabeth Farley. William is the child of Littleberry Gresham, Esq and Elizabeth Rhodes. Littleberry is the child of Edward Harris Gresham and Mary Unknown. Most of this came from Frane Thomas' book "Some Early Settlers of Tallapoosa County". We are cousins through the Greshams. Check our website to see if it might be of any help to you and get in touch with us if we can be of any help.

Becky Vessell, Crispin Vessell (ushoots@bellsouth.net)

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