From: JoeHerman@aol.com
To: LARKLANE@juno.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996
Subject: Panevezys Update
Dear Jim:
I have spent the last few hours reviewing and updating my recently acquired
information and realize that the data I sent before may be incorrect.
Here it is:
The Panevezys connection comes from my maternal grandmother, Ethel
Schwartzman (Herman, nee Barron). Her father was Avram who was from
Panevezys. Her mother, Faiga, was from Gelezai.My maternal grandfather,
Sam Herman (originally Orchick Aaron Barron) was
from Pushalot and/or Kavarskas.
Thanks,
Joseph H. Miller
Lexington, Kentucky
From: Hyam Singer
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996
From: Brian Jackson (brianj@tartarus.uwa.edu.au)
My grandfather had 5-6 brothers and a Sister. As far as we know they
were all killed during the Holocaust. We received fairly scnty information
about this branch of the family. My Grandfather, may he rest in Peace
passed away in 1971 and I am named after him.
My Great grandfather on my father's side was also born near Panavezyz and
his name was Yehudah Leib Zucks. he left Lithuania around the turn of the
century and went to Ireland (where the family name was changed by the
Irish Authorities to Jackson) and later on to South Africa.
From: ACZH34A@prodigy.com (MR JACOB GUREVICH)
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995
Well, after receiving 1897 census documents, 1855 census documemnts,
1874 documents, and a few birth records from the family, it became crystal
clear that the Abram Leib listed in the records was in fact our Leiba Mendel.
We realized this because some of this guy's children and nephews were listed
along with their dates of birth in the records we received.
Moreover, some of his children weren't listed at all. I can now only
speculates as to why this is true. What is clear however, that if you order
documents from any of the services which can provide them from the former
USSR,you might want to order the records of all the siblings of your ancestor,
because your ancestor might not be listed by the name you knew him and if you
only ordered a document for that ancestor, the researxher could easily fail to
find what you are searching for because there is an excellent chance that your
ancestor, if he was legally registered anywhere, was registered under another
first name. Good luck, and share your results with us please.
From: LARKLANE@juno.com
My grandfather thinks that the family didn't go because they were in a tiny
shtetl and not in the city at the time. After WWI, he attended the Yeshiva
that Rav Kahaneman headed, and then trained as a shochet (at his mother's
insistance), before heading out to South Africa in the late 1920's. His older
sister Rivka GINSBERG married David LAZAR and moved to Israel in the early
1930's. His younger sister Elka GINSBERG and his mother Shifra Leah (nee
COHEN) didn't move to South Africa until 1936.
The GINSBERG family were apparently originally from Shalok and Abram
GINSBERG's father Lazar was one of 11 brothers (and no sisters). Lazar's
father was Zalman Dov GINSBERG (d 1935) and his mother was Elka (maiden
name unknown). I only know the names of three of the brothers besides
Lazar Ginsberg: Yankel Ginsberg, the oldest (who married first Chava (KAGAN)
and then Miriam Anne (BARKER) and had a total of six children .Yudel Ginsberg
who married Shaina; and Shmuel Benyamin Ginsberg(1880-1954) who married Sora
Henna LAN and had six children ,all of whose children, I believe, married in
South Africa, and not in Lithuania).
In contrast to the GINSBERG's who came from Shalok originally, I know that
the COHEN/KAGAN/KAHAN family were from Panevezys. The patriarch of the family
was Zev Velve KAGAN/COHEN (although Zev was either the brother or the nephew
of Alexander Sender HaCOHEN KAPLAN famous as the author of the Shalmei
Nedarim, - and who was a Rav in various places, including Shoveli, and who
ended up being Rav for 40 years in Kupeshik).
From: "Martin N. Kruger" (mk-zbt@van-net.com)
From: S Hetland (editorial@nils.com)
From: "Joseph H. Miller" (joeherman@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: Gary Fitleberg(no e-mail!)
From: Brian Jackson (brianj@tartarus.uwa.edu.au)
From: MorrisW733@aol.com
The following info is on one side of my family. On my mother's side, her
father came from BLEDOW. Her mother came from Postavy in the Vilna Guberniya.
However, her mother's father came from Vidzy (Vilna Guberniya). They spread
their tentacles over over other areas of the Vilna Guberniya and into parts of
present day Lithuania (SALAKAS & PANEVEZYS)...
A survivor from Vidzy mentioned that they were not allowed to purchase
Matzohs for Passover there, due to the Communists. She remembers that as a
child in the 1940's they used to go to Panevezys to buy Matzohs. She recalls
that they used to buy Matzohs at a Matzoh factory there from a ZALMON
MOGILNIK. That is my grandmother's maiden name from Postavy (Her father,
grandfather, great-grandfather...were all from Vidzy).
I am interested in 2 pieces of information about Panevezys:
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996
From: Harry.Hurwitz@tbu.ExcellNet.co.il (Harry Hurwitz)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996
MOSHE Aron Feinberg married GUTTE MIRIAM (Solomon) Feinberg. Two of Gutte's
brothers, SCHMUEL Solomon and Isaac Solomon came to SOUTH AFRICA. They were
the children of ZVI Solomon. Saja Feinberg married first a MISS (Kotzen)
Feinberg and then her neice Chase (Kotzen) Feinberg. Chase was the daughter
of DAVID Kotzen.
I have been told that two members of this family emigrated to America and
according to legend started KAISER MILLS, I have no evidence to substantiate
this company ever existed. I have also been told that 2 members emigrated to
LEIPZIG in GERMANY where it is believed they perished in the HOLOCAUST. Other
members were also believed to have perished in PANEVEZYS in the HOLOCAUST but
as yet I have yet not been able to substantiate this either.
To: larklane@juno.com
From: HBORIOLES@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:36:59 +0000
From: ANN
Cc: hsinger@cen.com
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996
Subject: Panevezys
Dear Mr. Gross,
I got your name and email address from the ShtetLinks page within
JewishGen. I've recently learned that my family either 3 or 4
generations back was from Panevezys. I recently came across some
family historical information written by my uncle (now deceased) in
which he indicates that either my great grandfather or my great, great
grandfather, Zundell Chazan, was the chazan at the Great Synagogue in
Panevezys. Our family's surname was anglicized from Chazan to Singer
by my father's father in 1885 when he mov moved to Ireland.
I'm trying to obtain whatever information I can about my ancestry
in Pazevezys and would appreciate any information or recommendations
that you might be able to provide. Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Hyam Singer
hsinger@cen.com
From: Sheila Kieval (KIEVALSB@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU)
Subject: Traupis/Trape/Treip Vilkomir/Poneivez Lithuania
If anyone has suggestions as to how I could learn more about my ancestors'
town, I would appreciate them. Please contact me directly at:
kievalsb@sjuvm.stjohns.edu
From: Brian Jackson (brianj@tartarus.uwa.edu.au)
Subject: Glick, Bollel, Turgen, Zucks, Immerman
Hi
Just wanna see if I have any relatives who I don't know with the above
names. The names are all from the Baltic states of Lithuania around the
city of Ponovezs, which contained a famous Yeshivah which is now in Bnei
Brak
Cheers,
Brian Jackson
To: James H Gross (larklane@juno.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996
Dear James,
This is a really fantastic idea. I hope that this will go to everyone.
3 branches of my family come from Panevezyz. My Gradfather Bene (Beinash)
Glick came from a shtetl called VerdoklerHe was born around 1905 or
thereabouts . His father's name was Yunkel Glick and his mother was yenta
Glick (originally she was a Marcus). Yunkel (My great grandfather) knew
Rav Kahnaman (Not sure of the exact spelling) quite well and when Rav
Kahnaman came to Johannesburg after the war he was very happy to meet my
Grandfather because he had known Yunkel of Verdokler his father in
Lithuania.
My grandmother Freda Glick (originally Freda Bollel) was born in either
1908 or 1910 in Panevezyz itself. She went to the gymnasium Beth Yaakov
School. She was involved with Hashomer Hatzair. Her father Moshe Eliezer
(Morris) Bollel was born around 1870 also in Panevezyz. His wife was Riva
(Rivka) Bollel formerly Turgen. He passed away a few years after my
gradmother was born. My gradmother and grandfather left Lithuania in the
mid 30's and settled in Johannesburg in the suburbs of Bez Valley and
Cyreldiene (Also not sure of the spelling). My grandmother (may she rest
in peace) passed away last year.
I would love to hear anyone with names that match and I think that this is
a great idea.
Shana Tova Tikatevu,
Brian Raphael Jackson
Perth Western Australia
Dear James,
Thank you very much for what you are doing putting together the people
researching Panevezys ancestry. I am now contacting everybody that you
mention in your letters. I was born in Panevezys but my parents
emigrate to Uruguay (South America) when I was a child.
Do you know if there are Jewish living now in Panevezys and if is yes,
how to contact them? Regards.
Jacob Gurevich
From: Harold Rhode (Harold.Rhode@f302.n109.z1.cgsg.com)
Subject: First Names in Tsarist Records
After examining hundreds of birth, census (Revision Lists), and marriage
records, I have com eto the conclusion that many of the names listed in these
documents were either intentionally corrupted, or that many of our ancestors
were known by names which were not their "legal" names. For example, there
was a Leiba Mendel Pazernov from Vilkomir, Kovna Guberniia the names of whose
ancestors and four wives we knew quite well. We tried to get his records and
nothing came up. We did get records for an Abram Leib Paznerov, whose father
was the same person that our Leiba Mendel's father was. But since our Leiba
Mendel had a brother named Avraham Chaim, we "knew" this Avraham Leib could
not be the right person.
Harold Rhode
| Internet: Harold.Rhode@f302.n109.z1.cgsg.com
Full-Name: James H Gross
To: heather@luntz.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Family from Panevezys
Hi,
I just found your homepage with Panevezys correspondance - so I figured I
would add my family. My grandfather Abram GINSBERG was born in Shalamus -a
shtetl 7 miles from Panevezys -but when he was two years old, during WW1, the
Germans lefletted telling civilians to get out as they were about to fight the
Russian there, and therefore the family walked in the snow, into Paneveys
proper - were they lived until they moved to South Africa. The family
took up residence in a house (which, from what I understand, belonged to
relatives, but the relatives had been forced into central Russia due to
the decree of the Tzar's uncle that all Jews must be moved out of
Lithuania to Central Russia to prevent them aiding the Germans.
Zev (wife's name unknown) had six children:
(1) Dovid Falke KAGAN m Sora Henna
(2) Itze KAGAN who married Braine;
(3) Avram Abbe COHEN who married Rochel Asne and had:
(4) Reize Gita KAGAN m Shimon Moishe MALAMID and had Yankel (who married
twice, the second time to a YUDELMAN)
(5) Noach KAGAN m Unknown and who had Sholam,Ze'ev,Dovid Falke and
Shabshe.
(6) Rivka KAGAN m Avron KUSHNER and had Noach, Moshe, Pinchas, Wolf and
Chava. (Chava married Morris ABELANSKY).
I hope somebody on the Panevezys list may find this useful.
Regards
Chana Luntz
heather@luntz.demon.co.uk
Note:Contact Chana for complete tree
To: larklane@juno.com
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996
Subject: PANEVEZYS RESOURCE INFORMATION
Dear Mr. Gross
I am tracking following and possibly you can advise how I can find out about
these people:
Tzvi Heirsh KRIGER/Kruger born 13.08.1836 in Kravenova, Lithuania (near
Panevezys). Riva Leah VITTENCZ born about 1845 in Panevezys, Lithuania.
Looking forward to hearing back from you
Regards
Martin Kruger
email: mk-zbt@van-net.com
To: larklane@juno.com
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 96
Subject: panavezys
I would like to work together to gather information regarding the Jewish
community of Panavezys. My great-great grandfather, Aryeh Leib (Yehudah
Leib) Hillman was married to Freida. They had two children: Mushke and Moshe
Binyamin (b.1866). They emigrated to Jerusalem in 1870 and were of the first
100 families of Meashearim. Any suggestions?
To: (LARKLANE@juno.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996
Subject: WebPage
Dear Jim:
I didn't find a connection yet, but I enjoyed your creation---nice work.
My great-grandfather, whose surname was BARRON, was most likely from
Panevezys. Let me know if you run across anything.
L'Shana Tovah,
Joseph H. Miller
Lexington, Kentucky
From: MR ALFRED E LIPSEY (HUHK72A@prodigy.com)
Subject: Searching Lena WEINER
Searching for information on Lena WEINER a member of the LUN (LOON)
family from Paneveyz, Lithuania. Family immigrated to South Africa
early 20th century. Lena lived in Cape Town until her death late
1970s. She had two sons in South Africa.
Alfred Lipsey
huhk72a@prodigy.com
TO: James H Gross
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996
Subject: Re: panavezys
I would like to work together to gather information regarding the Jewish
community of Panavezys. My great-great grandfather, Aryeh Leib (Yehudah Leib)
Hillman was married to Freida. They had two children: Mushke and Moshe
>Binyamin (b.1866). They emigrated to Jerusalem in 1870 and were of the first
100 families of Meashearim. Any suggestions?
I am using the internet at work and don't want to get in any trouble.
Please mail a response to my attention, Gary Fitleberg, 24106 Kittridge
Street, West Hills, CA 91307. Thanks !!!!
To: James H Gross (larklane@juno.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996
Subject: Panevezys e-mail info dump
Do you have a lot of stuff that you have collected because I would really
like some more information about the city anad the surrounding villages
and shtetls so whatever info you come to please send me.
B'Hatzlach,
Brian Raphael Jackson
To: BetteJoy@aol.com
Cc: larklane@juno.com
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996
Subject: PANEVEZYS
DEAR BETTE STARKMAN & JAMES GROSS,
I see that you (BETTE) not only have family from Mogielnica, but, you also
have relatives from Lithuania (in particular, PANEVEZYS). Your name was
found at James Gross's interesting web site at
Http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721
I found this site to be particularly well done. It was a wealth of
information!!
1. Can anyone you know do a lookup in the 1934-1940 or so timeperiod in the
equivalent of a City or Business Directory? I would like to know if this
name or any similar permutations appear. DO NOT DISCOUNT A SPELLING
PERMUTATION SUCH AS MOGILNIKOFF OR MAGILNIK.
2. Secondly, do you know of any survivors (born before 1900) who could
personally confirm knowledge of this gentleman or similar information?
Thank you very, very much.
Sincerely,
Morris Wirth
morrisw733@aol.com
From: Zvi Griliches (grilic@kuznets.fas.harvard.edu)
Subject: Other Lithuanian Records
Chana Luntz asks about other possible business records from Lithuania:
a. Business directories. If your grandfather was a manufacturer, his
factory may be listed in one of factory handbooks for all Russia
(Lithuania was part of Russia then). Also, possibly in Vsya Rossia, under
the relevant town and business heading.
b. Voting lists of 1908-10. Try Beider.
c. If he was a merchant of some class, he would be listed in one of the
merchant directories. Some of them are available in Russian libraries, at
least in StPetersburg.
d. If he was a philanthropist, he may show up in one of the
Maggid-Hamelitz contributors list.
Zvi Griliches
grilic@kuznets.harvard.edu
Cambridge, MA
To: larklane@juno.Com
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996
Subject: Panevezys Group
For: James H. Gross
Please include me in your Panevezys Group. My ggfather, Ben-Tzion (Berre-
Benche) BROIDE (b. in 1830's, judging by his photograph taken in 1905) was
from Panevezys, as was his wife, Rieva SKLAR, whose mother was Eljela. They
had 15 children, of whom 3 died young. They have many descendants in U.S.A.,
South Africa and Israel. Their married daughter, Sara-Dvora, (my gmother,
b.1875), ran a dairy farm with female helpers only, on the outskirts of
Panevezys from about 1900 to 1906 and prospered mightily. I have some family
stories about this period. I have much info on the descendants of Ben-Tzion
and Rieva. Has anybody in the group found any of the above names in
vital records, census lists, etc.?
Harry Hurwitz
(harry.hurwitz@tbu.excellnet.co.il)
Rehovot, Israel
From: Brian Yudelowitz (apollo@lia.co.za)
Subject: Searching: FEINBERG, Lithuania
I am trying to trace my g.grandfather's Moshe (Moses) Aron FEINBERG and his
brother Saja (ISAIAH) Feinberg's family. They lived in PANEVEZYS, Lith. I have
a photograph of their parents ,that being my g.g.grandfather, AVIGDOR FEINBERG
taken in KOVNO. Moshe Aron Feinberg and his brother SAJA Feinberg came to
SOUTH AFRICA in the 1890's. SAJA did not like South Africa and returned to
Panevezys. After his death his wife and remaining children came to South
Africa. I have 8 to 9 generations of these two brothers virtually complete
but I wish to find the rest of their family.
Can anyone help,
Barbara
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996
Subject: Panevezys
Please add my name to the researcher list of Panavezys, Lithuania. I am
researching the surnames DEMBO and HILLMAN from my maternal family.
My great-great grandfather was Arye Leib/Yehudah Leig Hillman ben Moshe.
He married Freida. Their children were Mushke and Moshe Binyamin.
The family made aliyah to Eretz Yisroel in 1870. The Hillman family was
one of the first 100 original families of Meashearim, Jerusalem,
Palestine. They were from the famous HILLMAN Lithuanian rabbinical
family. Aryeh Leib/Yehudah Leib later remarried Hendah Gittel bas Chaim Ze'ev.
Their son was Yosef. My great-grandfather Moshe Binyamin HILLMAN married Masha
Reizel SOFER bas Yitzchak Ze'ev SOFER. Their children were Chana Rivke,
Yaacov Eliyahu (my grandfather), Freida, Meir, Yitzchak and Moshe Binyamin
(born after his father died). All eventually emigrated to the USA except
Meir.
I would like to learn about my ancestral roots especially the DEMBO and
HILLMAN families and about Panavezys. I am presently a member of the
JGSLA. Thanks in advance for your anticipated attention and cooperation
regarding this very important matter.
Gary Fitleberg
24106 Kittridge Street
West Hills, CA 91307
To: larklane@juno.com
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996
Subject: Panevezys
Hello -
I am just beginning my research so this is like a smorgasborg and I don't
know where to begin.
My maternal grandmother and her family came from Panevezys, but, when she and
her sisters and mother came over to the US in about 1905, they changed their
surnames. I would like to know where to start to look for my family. I do
know that their original name was Dvornik or Dvornak. Their father and
brother emigrated to South Africa sometime around 1900, but the trail goes
cold there. Any help getting going would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Helene Buchman
hborioles@aol.com
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